The Scene Notice Dilemma

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The Scene Notice Dilemma. [ 28.10.2012 ]

For the start into this new section I’d like to touch the scene notice subject, where in my humble opinion certain ethics would be needed. A lot of people probably agree on the fact that at least half of the scene notices out there are lies.

What seems particularly interesting to me is how people don’t know anything about someone until they reach the point where they get into a fight with each other. I recently had the chance to witness this when 2 members of a release group got into an internal fight. I have always been fine with both of them, so naturally I wanted to hear what both of them got to say about the situation. What happened was that one of the guys started telling me about all the bad stuff the other guy does. I was like WTF? I said to him that this had been going on for years and that he never cared about mentioning it to me? Would i ever get to know without them getting into a fight with each other? Probably not.

My conclusion is that both of them are equally guilty, the one that is accused if the accusations are true, and the other one for exposing him as he knew for months even years and never cared to let anyone know until things didn’t go his way anymore. What should the punishment be for such guys? Well, we all know there is no such thing as a court on the scene and people usually don't follow the principle of doing the right thing but will revert to. What do i benefit from knowing this guy or having him around? It´s pretty obvious how certain guys feel and think about someone after shit hits the fan.

IMHO the best you can do is avoid such a crowd, let them do their work in the way they want it to be done. One thing though is certain: They for sure wont enjoy my companionship anymore. And so the circle of good and trust worthy people keeps shrinking until you realize, hmm, who can I trust at all how can I know that one of the friends I have left wont be noticed by another friend and shit will repeat itself. Are they friends at all or just fellow sceners who each pursue their own agenda and race towards their own goals.

I’ll stop here for now as i think that there is already a lot of room for debate. So hopefully I can read soon how you guys feel and think about the subject, how you would react and what your point of view regarding that topic is.

Take care, Futurist

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POSTED BY ……: Xenirina
POSTED AT ……: 06:31 / 01.11.2012
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Pretty interesting.
There is always little fights going on within the scene. They can be pretty funny to watch :)

Thanks for the info.

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POSTED BY ……: inf
POSTED AT ……: 20:57 / 01.11.2012
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Does anyone *really* care anymore? :p

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POSTED BY ……: inf
POSTED AT ……: 21:03 / 01.11.2012
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By the way i used to post on console-news.org all the time, despite the obvious group bias it was maybe the last place there was any ever any place for console sceners to talk semi-openly about things. It all seems dead to me now. I just look at flashtro.com and think about what it used to be like.

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POSTED BY ……: mono
POSTED AT ……: 18:29 / 02.11.2012
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hi inf, ye i know i added you :p

nforush is the heart and soul of console-news.org reborn. and exactly those awesome things the site had is what we want to bring back to life. since a lot has changed over the years we will see where we can get. so far i am pretty excited about what has bern achieved already.

regarding the article all i can say is that there is little difference when online world is compared to offline world. wherever its possible id try to be helpfull in terms of to turning the situation into a win win situation. if possible…

its easier tho in the online world to turn the back to someone and move on with things all alone.

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POSTED BY ……: Futurist
POSTED AT ……: 18:36 / 02.11.2012
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inf, i'd say people dont *really* care anymore, but still some peps might come around and talk semi-open like back in times or maybe they wont hehe we will see :)

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POSTED BY ……: inf
POSTED AT ……: 14:42 / 12.11.2012
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yes sorry maybe i was a little negative i am for the idea.. i'm still very much supportive of the scene elsewhere. just got a little jaded and annoyed at the console scene. But there was plenty of great people especially in PSP worth talking to and i remember those days fondly still.

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POSTED BY ……: Futurist
POSTED AT ……: 16:12 / 17.11.2012
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Well hopefully, we can manage to establish somewhat decent community, i must say some very nice people hang around in our site chan so things are looking great, nostalgia is present all over, i feel that many people feel the same way as you when diggin up their old memorys.

Take care, and glad to see guys like you around.

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POSTED BY ……: Gout
POSTED AT ……: 16:01 / 22.11.2012
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If you want to dig up old memories, I enjoy going through old cracktros, trainers and what not. It used to show more of the heart of the scene at its prime rather than monkeys just sitting and putting in a disc and hitting dump. When the scene resorted to waiting for p2p to crack, you know it was done

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POSTED BY ……: mono
POSTED AT ……: 15:43 / 24.11.2012
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Ye Gout! You name it!

We plan on having a biiiig cracktro section for each console. Already collected a lot of them.

Do you have some sort of archive? :)

Anyone?

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POSTED BY ……: Gout
POSTED AT ……: 04:46 / 25.11.2012
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yeah there are archives around definitely. How do you want them to be so you can put it on the page?

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POSTED BY ……: mono
POSTED AT ……: 09:30 / 25.11.2012
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well… best would be videoclips ofcourse. we upload em straight to our youtube channel. then it is easy to embed em, add info, comment plugin etc.

i´m looking forward to that, might add news today with link to the first cracktro section.

since there are soooo many i´d like to achieve some kind of order/structure if possible. i dont want to mix em up.

you think that can be achieved?

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POSTED BY ……: gout
POSTED AT ……: 16:32 / 25.11.2012
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definitely! and you do know there are already so many on youtube and flashtro?

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POSTED BY ……: mono
POSTED AT ……: 23:22 / 25.11.2012
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Ye Gout! I got like 300 or so sitting on my hard disk. I already added some to our youtube channel.

Lets discuss the cracktro over here!

… and keep this thread related to the "scene notice dilemma" article.

;)

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POSTED BY ……: Anon
POSTED AT ……: 19:29 / 03.12.2012
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Going back to th actual *scene talk* as requested, the only relevant scene drama that has happened in the recent month is of course our favorite group in a notice, yet again.

To catch those of you up to the recent drama we can thank the writers of the scene notice: NRP.ONEUP.JUST.ANOTHER.NFO.ABOUT.THEM.NDS.PSP.PS3-NOTICE that essentially summed up the last ~6 scene notices about this said user/group and their constant blatent ongoing abuse. Shame that even after repeated notices, nobody is able to even do a thing about this group, alas it continues with various rented boxes that are willing to give affil to anyone if they just release

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POSTED BY ……: Futurist
POSTED AT ……: 00:56 / 04.12.2012
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Well there is an intresting dillema around the rented sites subject. It seems that no one gives a shit about rented sites when good groups affil on them, no one will say a word everyone will just hang around cuz it's cool to be on those sites with those cool groups. But when those groups are not affiliating a rented site than there is whole hasle around it. I must say that it's kinda unfair to treat grps difrently just because some group is more succesfoul than the other. I personaly am against all such rented sites no mather who affils there. And atm there is a ton of groups that affil rented sites.

I probably wouldnt be to wrong if i sayed that there isnt one major group that doesnt affil on rented sites.

I think this topic deserves it's own post i'll write up a new article on this mather in near future.

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POSTED BY ……: pb
POSTED AT ……: 23:29 / 20.12.2012
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haha! awesome, last time I remember was site purge user always did the trick, on both ends! ;) cheers keep cracking (the scene is very much alive) just how irl we have economy issues, hehe the scene is suffering the good ole small world it was not this p2p/usenet bullshit that now, everyone and their kids have access to warez WTF? anyways, I see you Gout/mono

cheers,
pb

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POSTED BY ……: X45PX
POSTED AT ……: 17:45 / 27.01.2013
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Scene is dead and it is NO big secret no more… it's dead from the beginning when it's simply the 1st pack to arrive to P2P networks =P

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POSTED BY ……: FIBER0PTIC
POSTED AT ……: 07:10 / 03.02.2013
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Message…

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POSTED BY ……: FIBER0PTIC
POSTED AT ……: 07:25 / 03.02.2013- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
If we could reverse engineer the way we currently connect back to the bbs days when 0 day was something special.

2400 baud importing from overseas, fix for ntsc, pack the intro & upload to the c64 boards 1 at a time was the true fun in the race.

FBR, Teh HUMBLE Guys, Napalm, & Worship.

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POSTED BY ……: Bandit Boy
POSTED AT ……: 01:15 / 05.02.2013
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It was a good time indeed.

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POSTED BY ……: mono
POSTED AT ……: 18:23 / 05.03.2013
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I got the feeling that some nicknames are familiar to me :) … console-news.org times!?

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POSTED BY ……: cruncher
POSTED AT ……: 10:23 / 29.07.2013
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hey i really like that category. will there be something new anytime soon? thank you

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POSTED BY ……: NI3
POSTED AT ……: 18:57 / 11.09.2013
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GTA 5

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